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Im Spine Interview - Ursula Demarmels

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Spirituelle Rückführungen in Vorleben: 
Sylvia Leifheit im Gespräch mit Rückführungs-Expertin Ursula Demarmels

Die im Salzburger Seengebiet lebende Schweizerin Ursula Demarmels arbeitet seit über 30 Jahren als spirituelle Rückführungsexpertin und hat bereits über 6.500 Menschen in ihre Vorleben und ins Zwischenleben als Seele begleitet. Mit ihren Fernseh-Dokus über spirituelle Rückführungen erreichte sie über 52 Mill. Zuschauer. Ihre Bücher wurden in acht Sprachen übersetzt.

Über 30 Jahre unterrichtete sie u.a. Entspannungs- und Hypnosetechniken an mehreren Universitäten. Sie war viele Jahre lang Lehrbeauftragte der Universität Salzburg und der Universität Mozarteum Salzburg und ist Certified Hypnotherapist (CHt.) einiger der international renommiertesten Fachgesellschaften. 2004 wurde ihr als erste Absolventin Europas von Dr. Michael Newtons Spiritual Regression Society U.S.A. die Bescheinigung Certified Life Between Lives™ Therapist zuerkannt.

Ursula Demarmels leitet Einzel- und Gruppenrückführungen, hält Vorträge und Workshops mit dem Schwerpunkt Spirituelle Rückführungen in Vorleben und Spirituelle Rückführungen in ins Zwischenleben (über den Tod im Vorleben hinaus, weiter ins Leben als unsterbliche göttliche Seele im Jenseits, der Spirituellen Welt). Ihre Rückführungs-Workshops vermitteln umfangreiche theoretische und praktische Kenntnisse. Sie erlauben wunderbare und berührende Erfahrungen über die eigenen Vorleben und das Zwischenleben als göttliche Seele. Diese faszinierenden Erlebnisse ermöglichen persönliche Weiterentwicklung und spirituell-ethisch orientierte Bewusstseinserweiterung. Wesentlicher Bestandteil der Kurse ist Karma Coaching, eine von Ursula Demarmels entwickelte Methode, die es erlaubt, Wege aus der persönlichen Schicksalsfalle zu finden.

Der Schutz allen Lebens ist Ursula Demarmels ein Herzensanliegen: Mit großer Hingabe widmet sie sich der Anwendung spiritueller Erkenntnisse für humanitäre Belange mit dem Ziel eines harmonischen Miteinanders von Mensch, Tier und Natur. Ihre Workshops und Ausbildungskurse gibt sie an der Gut Aiderbichl Akademie in Henndorf am Wallersee: www.spiritualregression.de/views/ruckfuhrungs-workshops-ausbildungskurse-ursula-demarmels.html
Im ersten Kinofilm über Reinkarnation weltweit, „Wiedergeburt - Deine Seele ist unsterblich!“ ist Ursula Demarmels als Rückführungs-Expertin und Hauptprotagonistin zu sehen (Mystica-TV, München). Gewinner des Publikumspreises „Cosmic Angel Award“ 2018.

Infos zu den Büchern von Ursula:

siehe ganz oben in https://www.spiritualregression.de/views/bucher-ursula-demarmels-wer-war-ich-imvorleben-karmacoaching.html

Website: www.spiritualregression.de/

YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/user/rueckfuehrungTV

Speaker 1:

I welcome you to another episode of the spine interviews. Today we are talking about the topic of reversals, and today we have the leading expert in the German-speaking room as a guest. She has already carried out over 6500 spiritual reverss and does extremely important work on the way to self-discovery, but also in trauma and trauma management. You already know over 52 million people from many TV documentaries, such as my First Life, Rebirth or the Jenke Experiment, and how important and life-changing a journey into one's own past and past can be. We will explore together with her today. In addition and I expect that extremely highly of her she is also a real supporter of SPINE and that's why I'm really looking forward to seeing you. Welcome, Ursula de Marmitz.

Speaker 2:

Very nice, I'm also really happy to be here. Hello, Ursula de Marmitz. Very nice, I'm also really happy to be here.

Speaker 1:

Hello, ursula Reference. That is not accessible for most people. At first you cannot imagine what that means. Why is that and what is being done. Please start by explaining to people a little bit what exactly are refutes.

Speaker 2:

Refutes, spiritual refutes, as I call it, are journeys into our own past. That means it puts in front of us that we go further than just our current self, in the place where we were not yet born, in different bodies to gain experience, and in a spiritual return. I lead people into a spiritual trance and then back through time, first through current life, youth, the childhood, into the mother body and back to before the witness. That is where we are in the afterlife, in the spiritual world, the spiritual world as divine souls, and then back to one of our prelives. That could be the last life we had before this current life on earth.

Speaker 2:

Das kann sein das letzte Leben, was wir hatten vor diesem aktuellen Leben auf der Erde. Es kann eins sein aus prehistorischen Zeiten, sozusagen aus dem Mittelalter. Wir inkarnieren in beiden Geschlechtern also, sowohl männlich als auch in anderen Leben, weiblich. Wir lernen beide Seiten kennen, kennen, und die Aufgabe wäre, dass wir uns in jedem Leben, wo wir inkarnieren, entwickeln, entwickeln im Sinne unserer göttlichen Seele, also mehr Bewusstsein, mehr Mitgefühl, mehr Kreativität, mehr Kraft, mehr Freude, mehr Weisheit erlangen, bis wir eines Tages nicht mehr inkarnieren oder until one day you no longer incarnate or incarnate as a spiritual teacher, leader for a project, come back to earth again.

Speaker 1:

That means for you. The human being is actually really just a kind of template in his body of something that is behind it, with which you actually work.

Speaker 2:

I would like to say, as humans, we always have the feeling that we are humans and there is still a spiritual world, but in reality we are spiritual beings and incarnate with a share of our divine soul on earth, in our human earth. Everything on earth, even the animals or the plants, are part of a, if you want to say so, of the great whole, are soul beings. In that sense, nothing is mortal. The shell dies, the material form or transforms, one would say, goes back into other forms or into components again and forms a new body. But the immortal, the divine soul is something completely different. It is subordinated to space, time and form.

Speaker 1:

Yes, but I mean, can you even see people as people, or do you always see this energy behind it which is incarnates divinely again and again?

Speaker 2:

I would like to say that, as Ursula on earth, I see the outer form, but I cannot prevent the fact that I also perceive the divine soul very quickly or the potential that this person could bring to the earth.

Speaker 2:

And it often hurts me to see what chances everyone has, how wonderful it could be, in what kind of harmony we could live for ourselves, that it does us good, for the fellow human beings, the animals, the nature, the whole thing. And how many people want to say develop in the wrong direction or stay standing or sit on the wrong horse in the truest sense of the word, and unfortunately that happens to most people until they have died, or perhaps even at the moment of death? And what always particularly touches and shakes me is when I notice that I am now taking someone back to one of his previous lives and then after death he notices oh my God, if he leaves the divine sea again, what have I done? What could I have done? What could I have done for a lightful, great, creative, joyful contribution? How am I in power? Striving or inferiority, feelings or superiority, hard-heartedness, equality, but stuck. But then comes the great wish this time I'll do it better, this time I'll do it differently.

Speaker 1:

Have you often experienced that people have experienced such a grief in the retreats?

Speaker 2:

Of course there are thank God also experiences where we can say I did great. Also the divine instance, our Seenführer, Schutzengel, as you want to call it, is satisfied. As a divine soul, you think, wow, I have fulfilled all my life tasks, everything I have planned. But as a soul, we have a life plan, life tasks as a divine soul, and I have fulfilled them. These are of course wonderful moments, and unfortunately there are also very often times when one says oh my, I got stuck somewhere.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes it's not even these big, terrible things that we did, that we tortured other living beings. Rather, very often it's the sins of abandonment. We have done too little of our potential. We looked away where we should have looked, we made it comfortable for ourselves. Sind es die Unterlassungssünden? Wir haben zu wenig gemacht aus unserem Potenzial, wir haben weggeschaut wo wir hinschauen sollen. Wir haben es uns bequem gemacht. Also, wir haben nicht in dem Sinn Trick am Steck als schlimme Finger der Geschichte, sondern wir sind entweder in der Komfortzone oder im Ach ich bin ja nur ein kleines Maislein stecken geblieben Oder wir haben einfach nur Gutes getan, gerade so wie I'm just a little corn stuck in there, or we just did good, just like.

Speaker 2:

The nose tip is long for me and my family, friends and maybe even the pets. But no view beyond that, so to speak, not from the city door. And if you're in the castle, have you ever looked from the city door? Who's lying in the lumps, who's in the waste, who's begging? And that's what makes the soul unending. I look at the city gate. Who is lying in the slums? Who is mowing in the waste?

Speaker 1:

who is begging, and that is what makes the soul unending. Do you have an answer?

Speaker 2:

to why that happens. That's a difficult question. I can only give you a few things now, otherwise you will only jump over it. It belongs to life as a human being being on earth, that for almost all people so you would say 99.99% comes as a big forgetfulness after birth or after the first year. Because if we knew what kind of karmic consequences our actions and non-actions have, we would all be the purest angels here, but we would not learn anything. We would never really fall in love. It would be a calculation. It's like when you smoke and you immediately have lung cancer. No one will smoke, so you have the feeling oh yes, maybe at some point. Or my grandfather died at the age of 96, then something completely different he never had lung cancer, he sleeping peacefully in bed.

Speaker 2:

And it's about us as a divine soul out of free drive, I would say, understating the divine plan of creation, our will, so that at some point in the spiritual development of the person he comes so far that he doesn't say my will be done, but your will be done, that he sees himself as a tool of the spiritual development of the person, so far that he does not say my will happens, but your will happens that he sees himself as a tool of the spiritual world, that he knows or even feels we are all one man, animal nature, the whole universe, and no one is better or worse and that we develop the compassion in us in such a way that we say it can be best for me if it is also good for everyone else and if someone is not doing well, the desire to help comes immediately.

Speaker 2:

That would be the task. That we voluntarily find our soul qualities, joy, love, goodness, willingness to help, creativity, that we find them there. The earth is a very difficult planet, a fascinating planet. We can develop ourselves extremely far here, but we can also stay stuck here On earth. We have the free will and many people can do whatever they want and leave what they want. Period. But it is a comma with all the karmic consequences Good karma and bad karma.

Speaker 1:

Can you then say that these people have perhaps just in quotation marks not yet become aware of their potential, but have not yet reached the point where the cosmos, the destiny, calls them to really wake up? I would say now, so really consciously working on it, just not wasting the potential?

Speaker 2:

That's a very nice question, and I think a large part of our fate is based on the fact that it is shaken up wake up finally, it shouldn't be like that, and I often have the pleasure of working with people who now have the feeling that is the binding link, so to speak, to our soul. If we now constantly define ourselves only in the outside or in comparison, or simply also set ourselves on externalities, then our conscience is often more and more gone, and especially groups, which are actually very important. But if a group has no ethical good goals and we are attached to the group, we want to belong to it then we often make infinitely lazy compromises and over time our conscience and our access to it is lost regularly and then it's often really the really blatant accidents or losses that happen to you or a feeling that many people have when they get a little older was that all that can't have been everything that such a feeling of emptiness comes that they then go more into search again, more on the search for the BG.

Speaker 1:

Can it be that you are telling us here that suffering, in whatever form smaller, greater suffering is an even important part of the growth of the soul?

Speaker 2:

If the soul I would like to say is renitent and does not enter the corridors, yes, but we could just save ourselves a lot of suffering if we don't really want to hear the finer signs with repulsion and resistance, I understand.

Speaker 1:

A little bit more in the direction of feedback how exactly they work, that people understand that, so they can contact you and then have a session Rückführung, wie genau die ablaufen, dass die Menschen das verstehen. Also sie können dich kontaktieren und machen dann eine Session aus. Erzähl mal bitte ein bisschen genauer, wie sowas abläuft, dass sie das ein bisschen bildlicher sich vorstellen können, wie das abläuft.

Speaker 2:

Also, ich wünsche mir immer, bevor Menschen kommen zu unseren Workshops für spirituelle Rückführungen oder auch zu einer Einzelsitzung, dass sie zuerst einmal meine Bücher lesen for spiritual retreats or even for a single session, that you first read my books. Who Was I in my Preliminary Life? The Positive Effect of Spiritual Retreats, and then on top of that, Karma Coaching Ways from the Case of Fate, another, the second retreat book. Then you already know a lot more in theory why you do it, how you do it, how the healing is in there, the spiritual healing, and when you come you simply start at a much higher level. So you don't have to explain everything. That would cost many hours, but you can start much more with practical work. I then lead the client into a spiritual trance, but he remains in his consciousness, so you can get up or go at any time. You can imagine it as if you were watching an exciting film. You are completely connected to the film, but you get with it. Now someone is eating popcorn, there are tacos. Now someone is coming to the cinema too late. You get that with it, but it's not so important to you. You are completely in the event. So it's an interesting thing in the brain.

Speaker 2:

We go on two sides, so to speak. One part goes on travel, the other is there, and then I very quickly connect the client with his divine soul and with his Seer. If that is successful, it goes back through current life, youth, childhood, motherhood, and then back to one of the previous lives. I leave it to the Seer, the guardian angel, the client, to choose the life where he thinks, the previous life, because we have an infinite number of things that are most advantageous for his current life and his next steps of development. This can then be very far back or is one of his last. If you now see the time causally pre-life, Then I look at this pre-life. We travel back and forth in time, which we have at the end as a cross-section, through life, through all the time, and then comes the last day, the last hour and the death scene, and the client experiences again how he died in the past, how he left the body, until he realizes he is not dead at all. He can now see his body from the outside, but he feels more tot. Er kann jetzt seinen Körper von außen sehen, aber er fühlt sich lebendiger, freier, besser, also überhaupt, die Brillanz der Seele kommt wieder zurück, die Erinner world.

Speaker 2:

What do I do as a divine soul? Who am I? Do I have tasks? Do I have a group of souls? How do I plan my next life? Why do I incarnate female or male? What are my life goals and goals in this time, with these possibilities, with this brain, what have I taken into account? To continue to grow. And to continue to grow means always. That is not an ego trip. That means always more and more. I get a feeling for the fellow humans, for the animals, also the so-called animal-saving animals, of which there is no need to give any more, because our animal behavior is a creed of a very, very deeply fallen human being, Nutztiere, auf, das es keine mehr zu geben braucht, weil unsere Tierhaltung ist ein Gräuel an ganz, ganz tief gefallenen Menschsein, Die Umwelt, die wir kaputt machen. Also. Wir bekommen eine Nächstenliebe und einen größeren Blick und sehen auch, gemäß unseren Möglichkeiten, unser positiver Beitrag. Das sind dann erfüllte Leben, glückliche Leben, wenn wir den Weg der Seele gehen dann erfüllte Leben, glückliche Leben, wenn wir den Weg der Seele gehen?

Speaker 1:

Hast du schon mal erlebt, weil es hört sich an, als würde das ja, dann kontaktieren wir den Geistführer und so, als wäre das was ganz Einfaches? Für dich ist es das sicher, weil du hast das ja auch studiert und wirklich lange jetzt schon praktiziert. Aber hast du schon mal erlebt, dass ein Mensch damit wirklich ein Problem hat, oder wo es schwerer geht.

Speaker 2:

Also was ich sehr oft erlebe that you really have a problem with it, or where it gets harder. What I experience very often and what I find very nice to me a lot of funnily enough lawyers come. They come in and say I'm sure it won't work for me because I'm so headstrong or just like that. Professions dry professions if you like, manager, or all sorts of things. But I've seen a TV-series or I've read a book by chance, or someone told of things, but I have a TV-center, or I read a book by chance, or someone told me that I would like to experience that too, but probably it doesn't work. And soul-guiding well, you don't have to come with that. I say, okay, I'll tell you anyway, please read my two books. And then I have lived so.

Speaker 2:

So often we are not yet through childhood begin to weep. So hard-hearted men and women before touch because they feel their soul leader, their guardian angel, whether they see him now or just feel they suddenly know about a larger instance. They are back where they might have been as little children, where this connection was even more there. They are actually joy touch and from there something wonderful happens. I'm getting goosebumps when I'm telling you this, where I can only bow down to the fact that I can be an instrument that can create, this connection can create.

Speaker 1:

If you tell me that these people can't live their lives after that as well as they did before. What does that do to them?

Speaker 2:

I really hope so, because I can't run along and see what they're doing now. So after every experience, whether it's a very fulfilled experience where you did super well in the sense of your soul, or a stifled experience where you have great, great regret afterwards, it always goes well as a divine soul, we know again who we are and there is so much joy, so much awareness, so much brilliance. That's just fantastic. And from that the wish yes, I want this and that, and I can do this and that, and I can do that and that, and I do it. And then I work out the next little steps. It's like when we start over again and from now on I only eat healthy and I do sports and everything. It was over in three weeks. Now I'm back in the old thing and that just brings a lot. When I say do this and that you have a big goal, what are the next small steps to be made that are doable, that are well doable, that you can integrate well into your everyday life? And I like going into the mountains and I think, oh, the mountain is high, how am I supposed to do that? And only such small steps that you make. It takes an hour, it takes two hours. You have come so far, so the next steps are important and you can do that. That works, that's wonderful. And of course, a lot of people come back and again. Our workshops I started with one, now there are already seven, because people don't want to stop. They say they benefit so infinitely from it. Like with everything, it's good.

Speaker 2:

You put a spoon back in your second review book, karma Coaching. There are many exercises in it and I say you need two exercises at a time. Do it for ten minutes and again and again, because everyday life has, of course, a huge burden, the many responsibilities on us, and it's so important to have something again and again where we realize oh yes, I can keep the connection. There are many exercises in it to keep the connection to your Seer. I call him Seer, you can also call him guardian angel, spirit Guide. It's the same, these wonderful high instances. And when we do that and someone comes back, I always write down the questions. Someone had, the problems someone had when he came, and many people say I have the feeling that not much happened. I said you didn't have a relationship back then. Ah, now I have one. You had it in your head, ah, it's gone. Wonderful, you had me out of it. Ah no, I'm holding a lecture now and then you're like thank you, a lot has happened, very wonderful.

Speaker 1:

Wonderful, Funny. Have you ever experienced that people that it didn't work at all, that they really had to, maybe also out of fear to have to move, to change their ways? Yes, there are some great examples, and especially then when someone notices that it works.

Speaker 2:

when people break up, they say no, I don't want that Really. Yes, because she had one person that was quite disgusting who came in a wheelchair so that he could even come in and my husband and I could lie down like this so that he could even climb up with a wheelchair. And then I just showed up and he would be absolutely healed. A man at the beginning 30, that's not so bad what he has and if he works properly he can find his way back into normal life. And out of nowhere he tore his blindfold off and said but I don't want that, I want it to stay the way it is now. There I have my outcome, there I have my attention. And he was almost aggressive and left. I never heard anything from him again.

Speaker 1:

Interesting? Yes, but that doesn't happen often, does it?

Speaker 2:

No, thank God, it's as good as never. No, the ideas are very different and we have from our ego and when you see films and everything, or hear others, that everything is going wonderfully. I have, for example, a family. There came, a father, a mother, three daughters, all already grown up and everything was going wonderfully. And then came the third daughter and she was not doing well. I said that doesn't exist now, and at some point it came through. She is not mature enough, she should change so much in her life and want to do so. Then we worked on it and little by little it came out yes, she should do that and that. Yes, you can think about it. There was no real willingness and the spiritual world simply refused to let her travel further. Wow, das muss man akzeptieren. Da war ich noch ganz am Anfang und dachte mit allen Mitteln und man müsste bis so klar und deutlich durchkommen hör auf sie ist nicht reif dafür.

Speaker 1:

Aber das finde ich einen unglaublich wichtigen Aspekt. Diese Bereitschaft, dass die Menschen in sich einen Impuls fühlen ich möchte jetzt das mal erfahren Ist meiner Meinung nach der allererste Schritt. Ich will jetzt mal wissen, was zeigt sich aus diesem anderen Leben Ist ein erster Impuls von. Ich bin bereit, tiefer zu schauen, und damit ist eigentlich die Tür offen, dass man sagt ja, ich gebe dem jetzt wirklich mal Raum. Siehe auch, was du beschrieben hast mit den Managern. Nehme das dann auf. Aber der nächste Punkt I'll really give him some space now, no matter, what you've described with the managers, take that on. But the next point, the next hurdle is from my perspective really then also another intensity of willingness. That is, are you really ready to change things in your life and really also new steps, new impulses or to see life in general differently, and there you can actually totally trust. I mean, fate will direct it this way or that way, and then the one is only ready for the next life.

Speaker 2:

Roughly speaking, right, it's not that easy Because there is no stagnation. It goes up or down, and when a life is something very precious, there is so much planning or so much to it, and when I don't get into the right places, all the others who are waiting for me and want to do a project with me or whom I could influence in some way in a very positive way, I can't do all that. That means the others need a plan B or C or whatever, because I'm exhausted, the same way you would do it yourself before your time. You're not there anymore, and it's not just that. I do it in my next life.

Speaker 1:

The signs are then much harder and much more fate-related.

Speaker 2:

So, for example, if you eat hard now, meat from the mass, the nutrition, the products, hard-hearted, you don't donate anything, you don't help, it doesn't matter. It is very possible that in the next life, for example in a war zone or on a waste dump where you are stumbling around, after a few bread rolls, you will find it again.

Speaker 2:

It doesn't just stand there, so to speak, if you don't notice it like that, then it must be harder that you notice how precious it is to have something at all to be grateful. You don't throw away food and things like that. So I would say the best guarantee that it will go better is that we give our best. And it's also the happiest feeling when I look at society in our West, where it's so good for us with so much money, there are unfortunately so many teachers, dead faces, and when I concentrate on it the soul is so far away, it can't get through, it wants to go. These people could be happy, they could have a radiance, they could be happy with modest things, but they have the feeling that there is even more power, even more consumption, behavior, and they are becoming more and more empty and unhappy. The pleasures are becoming more and more perverted, always more broken, that you can still feel something at all. That is so sad. That shouldn't be.

Speaker 1:

I think, it's great, that you put it that way, because exactly these opportunities, that this now offers, are these opportunities, and you demand yes. In the end you provoke yes, even if you are lazy you can almost say lazy bad karma, that it makes itself comfortable in all these things. That you just said, is also my work, where I really try to wake up as many people as possible, in the truest sense of the word. Das ist ja auch mein Wirken, wo ich versuche, wirklich so viel wie möglich die Leute irgendwie aufzuwecken, im wahrsten Sinne des Wortes. Ganz, ganz, ganz wichtiger Impuls. Aber was mich auch noch sehr interessiert, ist was macht diese Arbeit mit Ursula Mal so als Mensch? Du hast das jetzt so viele Jahre schon gemacht und so viele unterschiedliche Erfahrungen in die eine und in die andere Richtung, in the other direction. What does it do to a person, if he observes, observes and experiences so many of these stories, these fates, these opportunities and also unused potentials? How did it shape you?

Speaker 2:

That's a very deep question. I have come to the world like that. So I know that most people say at some point something happened to him and then I came to the world like that. I know that most people say at some point something happened to me and then I came to the world, that I love people, love animals, love nature. As a child I asked myself the questions where do we come from, where do we go? And for me everything was always alive and I tried to treat it with care and love and I think a significant part is nature. I am very much in nature and alone in nature, so, as I feel now, I am part of nature and more and more power came.

Speaker 2:

As a child I always wanted to become an explainer because I thought that many people simply misunderstood things and over time, more and more it came to me from my search that I was allowed to find a lot in myself and that there is a very strong connection to the spiritual world and unbelievable things happened and that there is a very strong connection to the spiritual world and there are so incredible things that happen. When people called me on the street and there came a man who asked me in Munich, I was still very young on the way and I thought, yes, he wants to bake there or something. He didn't want to. But he came back and said don't forget that you are an angel. You must never forget that. It was a great task. And that happened over and over again from different places where I thought what's the point now? And over time I grew into that and then I started with the spiritual retreat in the past life and then I realized that it goes much further, was much more about the inter-life and soul.

Speaker 2:

As the first European graduate, I was allowed to do the training with Dr Michael Newton and when the training was over he held my husband back and said to me I want to tell you something. And then I said go again. And he said to my mother your wife belongs to the very great heavens and earth. Support her, keep her back free. That was very good, because computers, computers, things like that. I wasn't there when these gifts were given to me and, thank God, gerhard, he helped me a lot.

Speaker 2:

And then it went so fast. Then the television came. I never applied. Then the book came. The television I never applied. Then came the book publishing house I never applied either.

Speaker 2:

It just all came and became huge and I just always noticed I love people. You have to love people if you want to help them. Not their ego, that's where it's grey and full, but the divine soul, the potential. The potential. That is wonderful. And see that you can be an instrument. It is the fastest way of spiritual development that I know, the fastest and most clear. I have tried a lot. I know nothing that is only going so fast. If you choose it is also to implement it. And that is so beautiful because I can also see how people come somehow so grey. Then they come back beautiful, blooming.

Speaker 2:

I always think about the workshops. You have to take a photo before and after. Dear God, it's like an anti-aging. There are suddenly interesting blooming faces and no matter how thick, thin, big, small we are, how old we are, that doesn't matter. It's the life that comes through that makes it beautiful and that's wonderful.

Speaker 2:

And what I just want to do is to stay normal and humble, not to give up. That's something terrible. So I'm not represented in the ESO scene, so to speak, because I then ask people when they have the feeling that they are already half-lighted I don't know, do you still eat meat? How much do you donate? How much do you work for charity? You will recognize their fruits.

Speaker 2:

And I often see people who are so modest and so natural and can do so much with a smile but don't talk properly and what do I know? And that's a huge concern for me. Even when I train people, it's a huge concern for me and I always hope that at least for the most part, I succeed, that we don't believe that we are already further developed and less far away. We are all one and you have to feel that over and over again. It's like a leaf on a tree that doesn't become more than the branch, than the tree, than the garden in which you stand. It's just that we grow more and more into the realization that we are part of the divine source, we are part of the creation and we have a responsibility in that that we support the divine creation and show it to us lovingly and worthy, and that makes it more modest and natural than a hooded and funny, I would say, swiss.

Speaker 1:

Now she's talking again about the we. The question was but how do you feel now after all the work? I can summarize you are only bloomed in your energy during this work in this field, Because it always goes well.

Speaker 2:

It is so in the past life. Many ask yes, it is God, when I am a murderer. But it is actually possible. Maybe I am a murderer or a warrior and have beaten as many heads as possible, but it doesn't stop there. This warrior dies then, and then he realizes my God, I didn't come to earth to hit heads.

Speaker 2:

I was a good strategist. But as a good strategist you can unite peoples instead of destroy. Uff and the wish. I want to close peace where I am. I want to contribute to peace where I am as well as possible. What I noticeen, beitragen dort wo ich bin, so gut es möglich ist, Was ich für mich merke ich bin sehr viel stärker und klarer geworden, Und ich kann sehr viel besser Nein sagen als früher. Das war für mich ganz schwierig. Das, denke ich mir. Man konnte mir mit traurigen Geschichtlein, konnte man von mir alles haben, Und irgendwann habe ich mir erlaubt, tiefer zu blicken und merkte das ist einfach nur trauriges Geschichteln, um dich reinzulegen, wach auf. Und ich muss sagen, ich habe wirklich erfahren, manchmal ist ein Nein die größere Liebe als ein Ja, Und jemanden zu stoppen und in seine Schranken zu verweisen sofern man das kann und es möglich ist, ist wichtig. Ist ein größerer Beitrag, als alles durchgehen zu lassen.

Speaker 1:

Aber wenn man diese Dinge in den, it's important, it's a bigger contribution than letting everything go. But when you see these things in people, these potentials, it's a, I think, very logical resonance that you, as such an energy like you, want to give, want to support, want to support, want to bring people to bloom, want to wake up or want to awaken, that you naturally want to give these impulses. And then that's a logical conclusion that you also had to learn this saying no, because I think that belongs together.

Speaker 2:

Yes, absolutely. I had relatively few teachers. So the system, what I do and higher than everything in the, I have a success rate and I had, thank God, a few really good teachers, but to 90%. I was given that and I refined it and to that I come to something very essential. I am a very hard-working person, a very consistent person. I can also rest wonderfully or lie in the bed or something, but I have absolute self-discipline and that's just part of it. The gift is really a part, like all talents and two-thirds are hard-working, always questioning, learning from good criticism, having self-criticism, thinking it's good, it can also be very good, and just growing further. And I live a very withdrawn life. Sometimes I like to be in society and ram-pa-tsamba, but mostly I live very withdrawn and look for the people with whom I share my free time very consciously. I like to be together with animals. I like nature very much. I support the Gutheiter-Bichtl animal protection organization. I've been there from the beginning and know what happens to the money and I like to do campfire cook.

Speaker 2:

I like to read, but I know at 12 years old I read the existentialists Camus, sartre and Simone de Beauvoir. Now I allow myself a Mickey Mouse, a love novel as a rest Asterix and Obelix, where I just notice I see a lot of terrible things, not so in the background, as more what humanity does. We are there to kill our planet, to kill for biological life, and that hurts me infinitely and I pray a lot, a lot, that I do my part, that I myself come into the corridors, that I pass it on, that it is beautiful when we look at each other, that it is wonderful that it is not sinful to grow spiritually or to come into compassion, that it is ultimately the deepest satisfaction that there is To feel the power that comes the spiritual world when the divine soul comes through. These are the highest moments of happiness. It's wonderful.

Speaker 1:

Have you tried other methods on your journey of discovery journey, or did it really lead you there directly?

Speaker 2:

I taught hypnosis at the university for many years stress management, relaxation techniques. I learned all of that, partly developed it myself. Motivation training. I did a lot of that and at some point there was a judge and he went to the doctor afterwards and said I said unbelievable, what you put all this into personality development and spirituality in the very normal teaching. I studied sports, I studied dance, I was in the theater in Vienna, I trained the musical audience and you do all this under such names, names, and you don't even notice it. But I notice how well I'm doing. Or sometimes, when students come and say I dare to study what I love to do now, but they were in conditioning training, I say I've never done that. Yes, yes, they did. I thought I've lost it completely.

Speaker 1:

More between the lines. But basically you still went into the method of return relatively quickly, or did you have a great impulse? It could be that something caught your attention too. Yes, that there is something at all.

Speaker 2:

I wanted to do that. Then I did it and then it stayed with me, so to speak. And then came this dimension from Dr Michael Newton that you can travel into the spiritual world. I already knew that, but not that you can guide it and accompany others, and so I completed this training, exciting, yes, and I'm teaching that now too, because I refined it again and I also had the goal from Michael Newton.

Speaker 2:

So he never wrote a foreword, he always said that and then he wrote me a foreword for my first book and I was also allowed to continue his method and have his blessing that I now do it completely now and thus reaching many more people. I was allowed to say that we are all the same, if you want, but we are still unique, individual and everyone is different and individual, and also as a divine soul, yes, and I have found so many approaches for many souls that are much more abstract than it says in these books by Michael Newton, and they stayed on the track before and thought, yes, for me it's not possible. But of course, and he's right, and so I was allowed to expand it that every person, when he is allowed in the spiritual world and when he feels ready, and that's the most, when they come, that they are really allowed to travel and experience it.

Speaker 1:

So you have developed it further and that is, in my opinion, also the course of history that we like with the season run. You have brought it this far. I take it now and build it. It's another time.

Speaker 2:

It's always the same inside, but the way we approach it or the way we accompany it, the language, the language, it's just another change. And especially the spiritual world you can say. There is the soul. I am often asked is she male or female? She is, of course, androgynous.

Speaker 2:

Or the soul guide, does he look like an angel, or does he look like a mermaid, or like an eagle or a bird? Neither, but the soul can do everything. Or the soul guide has no form or all forms he wants, but for us we are still very anchored in our consciousness and it helps a lot when we give him maybe an angelic form, or like the merlin, or like an eagle, or like a light, whatever comes. If that helps us, that's very wonderful. But the spiritual world has no face. So we can take many faces if it helps us to travel deeper and deeper there where we realize at some point I was allowed to travel in areas there is bliss, but there is maybe still sound or light, but there are perhaps very deep feelings, endless insights, but then no more feelings, no more insights, no more individuality. It's very difficult to name it, but it's so wonderful. You want to stay forever. But as soon as you name it a little bit. You fall back again, you are bound to the earth again, but that is limitless, timeless eternal.

Speaker 1:

Did you ever have that? Is there also that you can lead feedback forward?

Speaker 2:

Yes, one of our workshops. So it is then the fifth workshop, the fourth out of the fourth workshop. Those are options, future options, because I design what I am experiencing now. You could say results of the past and in the now I plan or design my future, but there is something like the grand plan of divine creation and also the individual soul, and you can also absorb it very well, or tap if I continue like this, how does it go on? If I do something else now, a new transition, how does it go on? And that can be day and night. So as an option, as a joy, as a gusto wow, if I use this and that, then my future for current life, but also in further incarnations I can change. I have a lot more strength, I can move a lot more and there is much more waiting for joy in me, awareness.

Speaker 1:

That's what I feel is the most important tool. This awareness, these actual tools that we have there with us every time, every day. Does Ursula have a clue who she used to be? I'm going to say yes. So I myself did über 92 feedback as a client in the past life and, of course, a lot in the in-between life, as a divine soul that's why you're exactly perfect for my next question, namely, do other levels and also other lives show up every time, or do you also end up two or three times in the same?

Speaker 2:

So I had a pre-life. I had dreamed of that several times before I ever knew that there was something like traveling in the past. Although it is not that, it is a pre-life. I just thought that in the morning when I woke up. That has now been so deep for me, so that was somehow not a normal dream, something like that. And when I made my first return, this life actually came at some point. But then, with the before, after, in between, so a lot in the dream, I could only remember a few sequences. And then came the whole palette and then it came again later and again later, and then never again.

Speaker 2:

But there was so much important stuff in me which I probably didn't only have to experience in my head, because in the pre-life we experience ourselves as this person. We are then completely in this body and experience this and do this. That was a very important thing. Otherwise, different are different experiences. When we travel in the spiritual world. It is often like this Of course we are there as souls, but what we are still doing there, or how we are doing it, or how it feels our forces, it's like a light spot on it that gets brighter and brighter and that still illuminates deeper and also sees the connections with all the other light beings, souls, helpers that exist there. There too, it is limitless.

Speaker 1:

Of course I think so. In any case, have you ever had such people in your retreats who have done such terrible things? I'm just taking some Hitler and stuff.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes. So just where you say Hitler, I have a man who was actually a very bad finger so in the concentration camp and terrible, terrible human experiments, everything possible, and in his current life. So he is then back of course, the death scene. He died. I think he was shot in the pre-life. Then at some point he caught him and he was infinitely sad as a divine soul. He was very long not allowed to travel far into the spiritual world. For a very long time he needed healing, help, regret as a divine soul, until he could come back and he said something wonderful and it came through.

Speaker 2:

He makes a living. He does so much good. He works together with right-wing extremists, does so much good. He works together with right-wing extremists as a psychiatrist. That's a job where everyone says you'll never succeed. That's terrible. Most of the time it's people who get together in groups and go to weaker ones, and many with alcohol and all that. And he says now I know why I have such patience with them and how I can help them. They want to do something, but they haven't found out where it really goes and he can show them ways to get there and a group is important and their own strength and that you step out. And he went with a new elan to work even more with these young people. I was totally touched.

Speaker 1:

I think that healing actually happens in these moments, in this soul, really exactly in that moment, because before it was subconscious that he didn't know why he was doing this, why he was working with them.

Speaker 2:

Then he had this aha experience from the return and now he knows even more what balances, what brings his soul back into a balance from what he had brought, a disbalance at that time, what should actually be worthless from a cosmic point of view but was, of course, terrible, no question and for me it was so nice his guide has because he was, it has him so infinitely people what he did, but so crazy and he found himself so inferior and terrible and we took his soul guide into our arms so long until he felt again as valuable and accepted and loved. I can't even cry.

Speaker 1:

Those are the moments you make them possible. That's great job, honestly, wow. Have you ever experienced that there were encounters again? Probably quite often. How do you mean that a person says yes, I know him, or somehow he seems familiar to me?

Speaker 2:

Yes. So every now and then Many of them come of also come with romantic hope, the great love, and so on. Often it is then maybe it was the great love in the past, but today it is my annoying little brother. So you would like to have both old and man and woman again. That is usually not the case. We incarnate in, we could say mostly with several of our 10 families, 10 groups, sometimes even alone, but that's very rare, but under very different signs. Now you are the mother, now I am the father, now this is the great love. It leaves me alone, and so on and so forth. We have other tasks again.

Speaker 2:

It shouldn't just be a repetition, but it's often wonderful when someone recognizes someone again. You have to be very careful when someone thinks you should now deduce something from back then. You were my great love, and that's this pretty one who is now new in the office. He has to love me again. Or you were so bad with me back then. Now I can act very terrible in our marriage. Of course, things don't run like that. It's my job as a guide to feel that and really, as long as you're in the spiritual world, on the level of the soul, to make that clear. Attention, that has to run quite differently now.

Speaker 1:

Have you ever experienced that people have experienced encounters in these retreats where they said I don't want to go any deeper, I never want to have anything to do with these people again, or remember this encounter?

Speaker 2:

I think we are free when we see, as a soul, whether we have our karma in the pure, whether we want to be together with these people and if, under which pretexts. But if it is bad karma, if we are the perpetrator, so to speak, and these people are back again, then we should treat them with appreciation and respect. In any case, if these people are no longer there or they no longer want to be with us because they think, oh, he's done so much to me, I don't want to be with him anymore, but represent for others, to do something good For other people, for other animals, for another piece of nature, because he may not want to anymore, he has developed further or lives somewhere else. But you can do something good. Represent Very nice, a very important aspect. And here I come to something very important Many people stay in self-pity because it is a comfortable way not to get into the ganges.

Speaker 2:

It doesn't make you happy, but it is somehow widespread in our society, where I think we have everything, but we are as dissatisfied as a rare society and it is always the other's fault, from the government to the mother, to the neighbor who sings so loudly. You can find everything if you want there. It just doesn't help you. And one of the most important and essential things, that's why I go to the current life. We all did things where we would later say I won't do that anymore, for God's sake. I'm him, and we were given things where we think that was certainly not great, that was mean and brutal. But it doesn't help to stay stuck there and I always call it the gift of truth.

Speaker 2:

What is the good thing that my mother gave me at home? Very good, and I have, for example, learned to forgive. I have, for example, learned gebe ich nie ins Heim. Ich habe zum Beispiel gelernt, freunde zu finden im Heim und die Heimat hier zu schätzen und zu mögen. Ich habe vielleicht gelernt, heute als Heimat hier liebevoller zu sein und zu merken, was man braucht. Ich habe vielleicht gelernt, trotzdem in meine Kraft zu kommen und irgendwann aufzuwachen, mein Leben in, to come into my power and wake up at some point to take my life into my hands and there is a lot of gift behind it.

Speaker 2:

And then I would say a mistake that we regret and do well again is a development step. And to let go and to say you have bad karma, you have to lift that into the light, not me. I go on and I still come into bloom now for the first time and I just do a few reversals or do a therapy in a serious case, but I don't stay there as a victim and I won't be a victim and keep it in another home. Being mature from a spiritual point of view means you are neither a victim nor a criminal.

Speaker 1:

You are a self-determining figure of your life in the sense of your divine soul, self-responsible, and there is no one else who does that for you, but you yourself are called upon to do so. You find millions of possibilities.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and support and everything, and we are never alone. And many people also just tell me they have the feeling they have come to earth to do something great. I say, what is that? Yes, then nothing comes anymore. Something great. And some say they come and know they could be healers or they could do anything. And then I look at them and think they need self-healing first. There is simply only a definition of a wish. That may even be on a good basis, but the way there to learn a lot to develop, to give up a lot self-discipline, perseverance, ability, so everything.

Speaker 2:

Words that are not so popular.

Speaker 1:

It is not an easy path, but in tests, in my opinion, how much you want it, with what strength you get into the thing, with what real intention do you want to form your energy and grow?

Speaker 2:

And really look until you find it. But you have to look. Or if you know. For example, when I have a session or a workshop, I go to bed very early in the evening, even if it would be great to go out or be with friends, or I prepare myself, or when I have written my books, I was just not there for all the others for months. I work a lot on a voluntary basis. I also work a lot for animal protection. I've also stopped eating meat, although I really love that. I enjoy eating with a ball of meat. But first of all I need something recent for me and to stop there. I've just stopped loving animals because it's so scary what you do there. But at the same time I noticed it was a gift from me. Funnily enough, after the energy of these martyred animals was no longer in me, I was pulled up.

Speaker 2:

That's a matter of frequency, in my opinion, yes, and I just stopped as animal love, as witch love, and then you notice love and as witch love, and there you can already notice love and love are one. Then so much love comes again also, so much protection sometimes back to you, so much support. I can often just bow and thank and think my God, there are beautiful things and so-called coincidences and wonderful combinations. It's exciting.

Speaker 1:

It's actually very, very beautiful. It's a combination. Is there, in your opinion, something like a God?

Speaker 2:

A wonderful question. I think God and love are very broken and misused concepts. That's why I call it the divine source, all that is the primordial source, the eternal light, a consciousness. Yes, I would say, of course there is God, but God is all that is. Not that any religion will punish us as human power to be able to live in their power and say it to us, but that's like the divine soul. How could I be reborn if I don't have a divine soul? And, as I said, if we are allowed to travel further into the spiritual world, that is a experience of God.

Speaker 2:

Then you know there is God and whether you call it God or not because you just think this term has been used very often, I still call it God. But I actually often explain how I mean it and he says you may also call it something completely different in you, simply so that you know what I mean. But that is what we are, from which we are a part. We are not God, but we are part of it, and thus the whole sea becomes the dry sea. Where does the dry sea end? Where does the sea start?

Speaker 1:

You said it before, or already hinted at it, that we have the free will on earth. Are you fundamentally of the opinion that we have a free will?

Speaker 2:

I would like to say that of all biological life on earth, man has the greatest free will. An animal, for example a cat, catches a mouse. It can't do anything else. It's its job to catch the mouse and that's it. Can I think about whether I eat something else today, or do I do this? We humans have so much awareness and so much free will. That's why the animal is always in our debt. We can be guilty because we can eat in a large scope. We can't suddenly say I want all other parents. That doesn't work. How should that work? But with many things there are, of course, circumstances, but within that we have an infinite choice. We could always choose to do something completely different. Comma with all karmic consequences, Good or bad karma.

Speaker 1:

Yes, exclamation marks, not commas. Three exclamation marks.

Speaker 2:

I count three exclamation marks, not commas. Three exclamation marks, Silvia. Three exclamation marks, and many like to forget that. And everything we give back to ourselves, that's so far in the free will. And the best thing is when you realize Not my will but your will.

Speaker 1:

That's another level of perception, when you get into this letting go, or rather accept, because you have recognized that what is added, what comes to you through these impulses that you have given yourself. So when you say it comes back when it's good, when it's supportive, then you totally come to this river.

Speaker 2:

And you asked earlier what? What changed in Ursula? So it changed in me. I used to as I still do today always look that people like it and I had huge success and thought then you're good. Then at some point I climbed up and thought, oh, I should also like it. It was still a big way. I also liked my teaching and I was not only in the presence but I thought it's fun for me.

Speaker 2:

I think it's great, I can relax and today it's like this I connect with the spiritual world, I pray to be a good tool and to be guided by the spiritual world and I no longer answer to people but to the spiritual world. And sometimes there are people who say that was so wonderful. I think, yes, it was good, but I could have done it better from their point of view. Or they think that wasn't so great. I expected more, but I notice I have such a. From the spiritual point of view it was wonderful. And then I think that counts for me Up there the instance, and not so much because people always get their ego in there, and that's something so completely different and I try and I thank God that I succeed to just be a good tool.

Speaker 1:

You have often emphasized this. Regarding the animals have you ever experienced animals in reproductions? Are they a part of it?

Speaker 2:

I love the animals. Many animals have already died to me and at I would say, impossible places. At my own retreat, where I was allowed to be a client, they appeared in the eyes of the animals or they gave me messages or helped me Quite extraordinary. So I have the feeling that maybe because I love them so much, also because I support many animals, or because I wrote my first book, so I was there to write it. I received an offer from a book publisher to write a book about spiritual reproduction and I thought I love the animals, but does it fit in there? How does it fit in there? Should I write that or not? And then I had a return and a client who was in a pre-life then came back beyond death, into the spiritual world, into the soul. There it is actually only beautiful. And suddenly he says there is such a tower, but it looks very mysterious, I don't know. So I thought the spiritual world doesn't look that mysterious to you, but I thought well, that's fine, let's go there. He said there are loads of animals in there. And then he suddenly said that's a message to you, not to me at all.

Speaker 2:

You are currently writing your book and are wondering whether you should include the animals. You should definitely include the animals. The animals are very important. There is no spiritual development at the expense of the animals. And then Mara, again with a normal voice, experienced wonderful things. I sat next to her laughing. I never told him that I was writing a book, never that I thought about it. He didn't even know that I loved the animals. He knew nothing about me. And tell me that Then I really quite finished. I thought okay, thank you, I understood it. The chapter comes in.

Speaker 1:

Wow, nice, exciting. Yes, I am also logically interested in the animal world because I find it so protective. There is the purest love that flows there and, yes, just exciting. I wanted to know if you have also been in reverse leadership in general, and have you ever experienced that maybe clients were also reborn as an animal?

Speaker 2:

Very, very rarely so, according to my experience and also from many colleagues in America, these are different incarnations. It's not better, not worse no, no, of course. But it's something else. But it can be that we take an excursion into an animal and incarnate there, or go in with our spirit and then out again, or animals in us or become humans. That is possible, but not these are exceptions, very rarely, very rare, very rare.

Speaker 1:

Speaking of exceptions, is it also an exception if you have reversals in which the souls find themselves on other planets? Or is that rare? Or is that often?

Speaker 2:

Hybrid souls, as Mike Newton coined the term hybrid scene. Not so rare, Really. Maybe it's hard to estimate because I don't know the number, but from my experience, 8%, 10%. But what exactly is a hybrid soul? Well, you could say now, when you divide the whole thing up and now in souls that want to incarnate as humans. Now come the humans see on the planet Earth, again and again on Earth until they have completed the reincarnation cycle, or then they come as healers, as spiritual leaders for a project. But now there are also souls that have never incarnated on Earth. They have incarnated, so their home planet is another planet, but maybe the planet was destroyed, or they have completed a reincarnation cycle there, or they make some excursions to the earth. They want to experience something here or bring in something from themselves, from their knowledge, from their planet. They then come to the earth and that is not their home. At the beginning they often have the feeling. To me it is very strange here. That is something very strange here.

Speaker 2:

These don't necessarily have to be mature souls. It can't be. It can be that they are mature souls and they bring a lot of good, but it can't be more mature souls. It can't be. It can be that they are more mature souls and that they bring a lot of good, but it can also be the opposite. Often it's like this, especially because we have the free will, that a soul that is not used to free will, that comes to a power rush and just acts, and where the emotional body, the compassion, is very little shaped, even underdeveloped one could actually call it where a lot of suffering happens. So both are possible and I have seen it again and again from both sides.

Speaker 1:

You're talking about reincarnation cycle. Do you have a statistic on how long such a cycle is, or can you not do it at all?

Speaker 2:

I would say everything you have planted you have to harvest. So everything you have given out you have to eat. But some people take a flower pot that they have. You have to bring it to an end. For example, you can't say I don't like relationships, I poisoned the last wife In other people's lives, the husband is always cheated, and so on. No, with relationships, I'd rather let that be. That means you have to keep practicing until you're able to live a fair relationship, a fair life. But then maybe for some it's a finger-thrust full and says it's good. The other in the swimming pool, the other in a huge lake. So some souls come back and forth in different epochs and parts of the earth. In any case it's a lot longer than you think. So if someone says I've incarnated 35 times with ancient souls, I would say start with hundreds and thousands. It was quite exciting. I started with the work, which was roughly like this you already doubled up the Homo sapiens 35,000 years ago. Today we are at over 70,000, at 120,000. It's a bit fluid which Homo we still add. But you notice, we have been around here for ages. That's not just so short.

Speaker 2:

And the extraterrestrial scenes are sometimes very, very exciting. Of course they bring in a lot of aspects of possibilities, great possibilities for development, but sometimes also of a heartlessness and brutality that is terrible. And of course, the incarnation cycle of the planet Earth also ends. It would be nice if we humans would not destroy the planet Earth in advance. We are currently doing that. We have already destroyed many of them, very bad. But every planet, every sun is a coming and going and it would be nice if we would treat the planet Earth with respect, with attention. All creatures, all creatures see in it part of the divine whole. The animals, especially the animal-hunting end, and it would be wonderful if we could grow into the big picture.

Speaker 2:

I would like to say it in a different way, because you asked about extraterrestrial life. There are many other planets where there is also life and there are also possibilities of non-biological life, which is not the spiritual world, but rather incarnations with gases and completely different elements, where you are not in biological life. And the earth is swinging very deep and very dark and it should be very high and very bright. It should be an example. That's what we should create as humanity. The earth should be an example of how to find harmony in voluntary togetherness. That should be an example for the universe, and it is more or less something where you say here are the barbarians who are disturbing everything, even their own planet, out of sheer stupidity For themselves, for their children and for their own incarnations. We no longer need to ask ourselves will I incarnate again or am I already enlightened here? Certainly not anymore.

Speaker 1:

Where do you know all these things? Is this something that has formed in you and reached you in the course of your life, or is it something that you learn from your meditations and your work?

Speaker 2:

Partly through my previous lives, through my travels through the universe, through what I do as a soul, through the access to the spiritual world that shows me and shares with me and also leads me that I can really see and experience, and also through the many think too late, but I think it will be possible now, slowly, at 7000. The fascination that everyone experiences there. I travel internally with Wow.

Speaker 1:

Speaking of traveling with I can only confirm that auch der Erforschung ich nenne sie gerne Erforschungsreise, logischerweise auch sehr viele Heiler und Workshop-Anbieter und Schulen auch durchlebt. Und ich bin bei Ursula gelandet und sie war letzten Endes mein Schlussstein dieser Erfahrungsreise nach außen, und sie hat mich wirklich wieder ganz in meine Kraft, balanciert, zurückgebracht und balanciert and she really brought me back into my strength, balanced and balanced, and the whole thing with such a beautiful, grounded and not turned off way of spirituality, very real, very grounded, as I the no, the final step of this journey, and I can only recommend to everyone who feels somehow addressed to do a return, do it, because now is now. We live now in this time. Ursula is now there. I also say don't wait too long. You say that anyway. Don't wait too long, because in the next incarnation these possibilities may not be available or it will be harder to find them.

Speaker 1:

Now, today and here, you hear this podcast and have the opportunity to feel into you whether that is maybe something for you. Insofar, please follow this impulse, if it forms. I would like to do that. Unfortunately, I have to, although I would like to talk to you for ages, but we just do it. We're doing another episode. We muss ich leider, obwohl ich noch gerne ewig mit dir reden würde. Aber wir machen das einfach. Wir machen noch eine weitere folge. Da sprechen wir dann weiter. Ihr könnt auch gerne fragen an uns stellen, also an die ursula vor allem, die wir besprechen, könnt ihr hier mir schicken. Aber, ursula, als letztes, was möchtest du den menschen denn, nach all dem, was du jetzt gerade schon von dir offenbart hast, von deinem vielen wissen und einer tollen arbeit, was möchtest du den menschen After all that you have just revealed, from your great knowledge and work? What would you like to tell people on the way, now that they have heard the podcast, the episode to an end?

Speaker 2:

I would like to tell them that they should go into peace, into prayer, into meditation, stop eating meat, into compassion, into being aware that you have joy in life in every moment, and develop gratitude. I would like to give you another exercise. I call it the exercise of reducing that we learn to feel how privileged we are, that we are here. We are not punished on earth. It is a huge allowed to be here. We are not punished on earth. It is a huge opportunity to develop here and it is wonderful with all the people. This is a glorious planet and that we feel better again.

Speaker 2:

If you are thirsty or drink something, wait until you are really thirsty and then drink consciously and in gratitude. If you are hungry, wait with the food until you really feel hungry and until even simple things really taste good, and then eat it consciously and with gratitude. When we go to bed, don't just go to bed. Wait until you feel that you're tired and then so consciously. My cozy bed, my pillow oh, isn't that nice, I have a bed. When you're cold, wait until you freeze. Ich hab ein Bett, wenn man kalt hat, warten bis man friert und dann das Jäckchen. Ich hab ein Jäckchen, geht mir gut. Danke, in die Bewusstheit und Dankbarkeit zu kommen.

Speaker 1:

Wenn man bewusst ist, wird man meiner Meinung nach von ganz alleine so dankbar all dieser Schönheit gegenüber. Es geht gar nicht anders, oder Aber entscheidet ihr selbst. Danke, but you decide for yourself. Thank you very much, dear Ursula, for this great session, for these great insights from you.

Speaker 2:

Thank you too dear Silvia, it was an absolute pleasure to be with you.

Speaker 1:

Thank you. Thank you, we really got to know you a little more and your great work a little better. No-transcript.

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